Legislature(2011 - 2012)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

02/25/2011 08:00 AM Senate EDUCATION


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08:01:33 AM Start
08:02:04 AM SB8
09:00:42 AM Adjourn
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           SB   8-STUDENT QUESTIONNAIRES AND SURVEYS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:02:04 AM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR MEYER announced the consideration of SB 8.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS,  sponsor of SB 8,  said this bill has  been around                                                               
for  quite  awhile.  It  is an  important  piece  of  legislation                                                               
because there are many agencies  that use the information that is                                                               
gathered from the  [Youth Risk Behavior Survey]. SB  8 would make                                                               
the survey more accessible to students.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:04:12 AM                                                                                                                    
THOMAS OBERMEYER,  staff to Senator  Bettye Davis, sponsor  of SB
8, introduced himself.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MEYER   asked  for  confirmation  that   a  60  percent                                                               
participation rate was necessary for this survey.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. OBERMEYER  replied yes.  A 60  percent participation  rate of                                                               
the entire  state is  required to qualify  for being  included in                                                               
the national statistics.  This would allow Alaska  to be compared                                                               
to  other  states  for  youth risk  behaviors.  He  stressed  the                                                               
importance of the state meeting that level of participation.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS asked  if there  are  other states  that do  not                                                               
participate in this survey.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. OBERMEYER replied that he did not believe so.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  said he  had three questions.  He asked  what the                                                               
level  of participation  across the  nation is  and where  Alaska                                                               
falls within  this spectrum. Next, he  asked if, by going  from a                                                               
passive to an active survey  distribution, there is evidence of a                                                               
higher rate of return.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DAVIS replied  that participation  will increase  if the                                                               
way the  survey is administered  changes. She said that  prior to                                                               
the previous change,  which changed the survey  to require active                                                               
parental consent, the participation rate was higher.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH  asked what  year  the  state shifted  to  active                                                               
parental consent.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. OBERMEYER answered around 1999.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEYER asked what the  consequences are for not getting a                                                               
60 percent participation rate back on the survey.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OBERMEYER replied  that  the  consequences are  significant.                                                               
School districts  will lack the  information needed to  help deal                                                               
with certain  youth risk  behaviors. The  agencies that  can best                                                               
address  these issues  and allocate  its resources  to correcting                                                               
risk behaviors need  these statistics in order to  get grants and                                                               
continue with its operations.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEYER asked if these  agencies help in educating parents                                                               
and students about the survey.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. OBERMEYER answered  that the results and  analysis from these                                                               
agencies are very useful and  are made accessible to both parents                                                               
and schools.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEYER  said that one  argument he  has heard is  that it                                                               
costs  the school  districts a  lot  of money  to inform  parents                                                               
about these surveys.  He asked, since many  agencies benefit from                                                               
this  information, whether  the  agencies could  help the  school                                                               
districts in getting participation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS  replied that these  agencies are  often non-profit                                                               
organizations  that  don't  have  a lot  of  money.  Some  school                                                               
districts   do  not   have  any   trouble  getting   students  to                                                               
participate in  this survey, others do.  The goal of the  bill is                                                               
to make this survey equally available in all districts.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MEYER  said  in  the  past there  has  been  a  lot  of                                                               
resistance in forcing parents to participate.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS explained that this  bill does not force parents to                                                               
participate or force children to  take the survey. She added that                                                               
on the day of the survey, a student could refuse to take it.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MEYER  asked  for confirmation  that  this  bill  would                                                               
require parents to opt out.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS  replied that the student  can also opt out  of the                                                               
survey.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. OBERMEYER said that if a  parent does not want their child to                                                               
take the survey  they can notify the school in  writing. They are                                                               
also  given  a  number  of notifications  before  the  survey  is                                                               
administered. Also, on  the day of the survey,  students are told                                                               
they do  not have  to take  the survey  or answer  questions they                                                               
might  find objectionable.  He  added that  the  results of  this                                                               
survey have been  used for years and there is  no other means for                                                               
getting this kind of information.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEYER  said that  this information  helps significantly.                                                               
He asked for  confirmation that even if the parent  has not opted                                                               
out, the student can still do so at any time.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. OBERMEYER replied yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:13:55 AM                                                                                                                    
MICHAEL  KEROSKY,   Supervisor,  Safe  and  Drug   Free  Schools,                                                               
Anchorage School  District, stated support  for SB 8. He  said he                                                               
has coordinated  the Youth  Risk Behavior  Survey (YRBS)  for the                                                               
last 15 years in Anchorage. Because  of the size of the Anchorage                                                               
School  District (ASD)  student population  it is  incumbent that                                                               
the  district finds  effective ways  for students  to participate                                                               
and take  this survey.  He explained  that ASD  must successfully                                                               
complete the YRBS in order for Alaska to get a valid sample.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He  said he  would  like to  focus on  the  process of  gathering                                                               
permission forms. He explained that,  in his understanding, there                                                               
are only two  or three other states that  require active parental                                                               
consent  in order  to administer  this survey.  Of those  states,                                                               
Alaska  is  the only  one  that  has  been able  to  successfully                                                               
complete the YRBS.  The YRBS is administered every  two years. In                                                               
the  fall of  the  year it  will  be administered,  participation                                                               
consent forms  are distributed to  students' parents.  The survey                                                               
is administered  during second-period  classes, and four  or five                                                               
classes from each high school are  selected at random to take the                                                               
survey. About 1,200 students are  surveyed in the district, which                                                               
is  statistically  a good  representative  sample  of its  13,000                                                               
students. After the second-period  classes have been selected the                                                               
district goes  through the list  of parents that have  said "yes"                                                               
or "no" to  the survey. The parents that have  not replied to the                                                               
letter  of permission  become the  district's "target  audience."                                                               
These parents are  sent another letter which  asks for permission                                                               
to distribute the survey to  their child and includes information                                                               
on  the  survey.  The  letter   also  includes  a  self-addressed                                                               
envelope with a stamp on it.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:19:56 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  KEROSKY said  that this  year  about half  of the  students'                                                               
parents,  or  about 600,  had  not  responded  to the  letter  of                                                               
permission.  He  explained that  ASD  receives  a relatively  low                                                               
response rate when something is  requested by mail. Following the                                                               
second letter of permission, only 10 percent of parents replied.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
At  this  point  students  and   school  coordinators  are  given                                                               
incentives to "hound" parents about  getting the form back to the                                                               
school.  The  arrangement is  that  those  selected classes  will                                                               
receive  a pizza  party  if they  get 100  percent  of the  forms                                                               
returned. Coordinators will  often receive a $100  bonus as well.                                                               
He reiterated  that it does  not matter  what the form  says, the                                                               
district just  wants to get the  form. About 80 percent  of these                                                               
returned forms  have been  marked "yes."  He explained  that this                                                               
has been the most effective way of getting these forms returned.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The entire  system of trying  to get a  piece of paper  back from                                                               
parents is  very difficult.  He explained  that ASD  spends about                                                               
$30,000  every year  the survey  is distributed  in order  to get                                                               
these permission slips back. With  passive consent there would be                                                               
no need for  this elaborate infrastructure that  has been created                                                               
and it would be much cheaper to distribute the survey.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:25:14 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS  asked if  he has  used e-mail  in order  to send                                                               
permission slips and reminders.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KEROSKY replied  that ASD  is not  using electronic  methods                                                               
because  it  is unsure  whether  it  would  be  a legal  form  of                                                               
receiving  permissions. He  explained that  even calling  parents                                                               
and asking them to return the form does not work.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  asked, in his  experience, what the  reasons are                                                               
behind the percentage of parents who say no to this survey.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. KEROSKY answered  that he isn't sure. He guessed  that it was                                                               
because some  parents do not  want their children  thinking about                                                               
this  material. Suicide  has been  the most  frequently addressed                                                               
concern.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:28:17 AM                                                                                                                    
CARL ROSE, Lobbyist, Association  of Alaska School Boards (AASB),                                                               
stated support for SB 8. He  said he wanted to give the committee                                                               
an example of  how the data from  the survey can be  used and the                                                               
positive  impact  it can  have.  He  turned  to the  2010  Alaska                                                               
Initiative  for Community  Engagement  AASB  progress report.  He                                                               
said it is important to look  beyond the problems that face young                                                               
people  and find  out what  makes them  successful. This  is done                                                               
most successfully by creating  healthy relationships with adults,                                                               
which  is a  shared responsibility.  In order  to do  this it  is                                                               
important to  find out what the  current status of youth  is, and                                                               
where it might be headed. This  is done through the collection of                                                               
data.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He turned to  page 3 of the report, which  included 40 behavioral                                                               
developmental  assets, which  encourage positive  decision making                                                               
in  youth. He  explained that  many of  Alaska's communities  and                                                               
families  posses a  number  of these  assets.  However, data  has                                                               
shown that  the average  student has  about 18  of the  40 assets                                                               
readily  available. He  stressed  that this  is a  strength-based                                                               
effort,  which focuses  on healthy  behavior and  good decisions,                                                               
not deficits.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Page  8   explained  how  change  is   measured  in  communities,                                                               
organizations and  schools. He said  the evaluation  results show                                                               
higher proficiency rates  in reading, writing and  math and fewer                                                               
risk  behaviors occur  in positive  school environments.  He said                                                               
that  policy makers,  like  this body,  expect  results and  want                                                               
research based programs for measuring change. This takes data.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE said  AASB's mission is to advocate  for youth. However,                                                               
in  order to  do this  the board  has to  know what  students are                                                               
thinking. He said  that "the very best and the  very worst of our                                                               
society  are  in our  schools."  The  results  of the  YRBS  help                                                               
identify what some  of the risk behaviors for youth  are and what                                                               
some of the strength based remedies can be.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:37:08 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS  said sometimes a  survey can improve  a behavior                                                               
by  making an  individual realize  that they  are not  doing what                                                               
they would  like to  do. He  asked if there  is anything  that he                                                               
might add to this.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE  answered yes,  there is  a correlation.  He said  it is                                                               
important to  understand what Alaska's  youth are doing  and what                                                               
alternatives can be offered. He  explained that from AASB's view,                                                               
most kids  appreciate when  they are treated  like an  adult, are                                                               
asked  serious questions,  and are  offered real  options. It  is                                                               
better to offer  youth options for what they can  do, rather than                                                               
what they can't do.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS noted that this is  a counter to the thought that                                                               
the  ideas brought  up by  the  survey will  lead to  destructive                                                               
behavior.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE said  these issues are pervasive  throughout society. He                                                               
reiterated that  it is  important to focus  on what  the strength                                                               
based opportunities are for children.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:41:20 AM                                                                                                                    
BRUCE JOHNSON,  Executive Director, Alaska Association  of School                                                               
Administrators (AASA), stated support for  SB 8. He said the YRBS                                                               
survey is  one way AASA  believes it  can secure good  data. This                                                               
data is important  as school districts attempt  to make decisions                                                               
about programs,  counseling, and  how to  interact with  kids. He                                                               
explained that  the more  data the better,  so that  programs are                                                               
not  offered  out of  ignorance.  He  said  that the  members  he                                                               
represents at AASA  would like to see more surveys  filled out in                                                               
a way that  is easy but still protects the  rights of parents. He                                                               
said this bill has done a nice job in moving in that direction.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS said  that  the cost  for  the Anchorage  School                                                               
District  was  about  $30,000.  He asked  Mr.  Johnson  what  the                                                               
estimated statewide cost of the current system is.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSON  replied that  he did not  have that  information. He                                                               
said  that many  school districts  do not  do anything  about the                                                               
survey because it is too  challenging and costly to get responses                                                               
back from parents. This occurs  especially in some of the smaller                                                               
districts.  The data  would be  much  more robust  if they  could                                                               
administer this survey in another way.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:45:07 AM                                                                                                                    
WENDY HAMILTON,  representing herself,  stated support for  SB 8.                                                               
She  noted that  she has  been  involved with  social and  health                                                               
issues as  a program manager  for the Tobacco program  and worked                                                               
as a chemical  dependency counselor. She said it  is a tremendous                                                               
cost, both in  dollars and man power, to  administer this survey.                                                               
She explained  that even  after expending all  of this  man power                                                               
and  dollars  the 60  percent  participation  rate is  still  not                                                               
reached. She said CDC [Centers  for Disease Control] did research                                                               
a  few years  ago  in different  states and  found  out that  the                                                               
biggest reason  parents did  not return  this permission  form is                                                               
because they lost the form or  did not care. Those parents who do                                                               
not want their children to take the survey will respond.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEYER  agreed that  students bring a  lot of  paper home                                                               
from  school.   He  suggested  that  sending   notifications  out                                                               
electronically could help.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:47:39 AM                                                                                                                    
BECKY JUDD,  representing herself, stated  support for SB  8. She                                                               
said  she has  worked  with youth  organizations  and some  state                                                               
agencies in the  use of the YRBS. Youth  Organizations often need                                                               
to look at,  plan, and evaluate its services. It  is important to                                                               
know whether these organizations  and programs are effective. The                                                               
YRBS is one  of the tools that have been  used for evaluation and                                                               
the data gathered from this  survey is required by state agencies                                                               
and national  organizations in order  to make a case  for funding                                                               
needs.  She  reiterated  that  the  parents  who  have  the  most                                                               
objections to the  survey are the ones that are  most involved in                                                               
their child's lives to begin with.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:50:50 AM                                                                                                                    
JUNE SOBOCINSKI, Vice President, Community Action, United Way-                                                                  
Anchorage, stated support  for SB 8. She said  that the Community                                                               
Action  Program  works  with  the  community  to  achieve  better                                                               
results.  She  explained that  in  order  to  do this  it  raises                                                               
private  dollars  to  invest  in  programs  using  evidence-based                                                               
practices  that are  accountable  for results.  The program  also                                                               
attracts public  funding in order to  do this same kind  of work.                                                               
The data from  the YRBS is used  to create a gage on  the need of                                                               
an organization in order to attract important funds.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
She  explained  that  United  Way  of  Anchorage,  as  a  funder,                                                               
distributes  millions  of  dollars   each  year.  This  money  is                                                               
directed to  non-profits in the  context of community  plans with                                                               
specific goals  and indicators to  track progress.  She explained                                                               
that United  Way wants to  see substance  abuse use go  down, but                                                               
it's not  possible to  know whether this  is happening  unless it                                                               
has the results from the YRBS.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
She noted  that United  Way-Alaska has  seen success.  From 2005-                                                               
2009  the current  alcohol  use  has gone  down  by 6  percentage                                                               
points and binge  drinking was reduced by 5  percentage points in                                                               
Anchorage.  This is  the  type of  data that  the  YRBS can  give                                                               
organizations in order  to become more accountable in  how it use                                                               
its resources.  This bill  will enable  United Way-Alaska  to get                                                               
valid and reliable data.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:55:28 AM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR MEYER closed public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He said  that the survey  information in the document  packet has                                                               
been very helpful. He added that  there is no way for legislators                                                               
to know  if a  bill is  effective without the  use of  surveys as                                                               
well. He said  he would like to discuss the  survey itself at the                                                               
following committee meeting.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS  reiterated that  this bill has  been around  for a                                                               
while and she has brought it  up again because she recognizes the                                                               
importance of changing  the way the survey is  administered. SB 8                                                               
does  not  have  any  accountability  for  the  survey  questions                                                               
administered; this  is done by  CDC. She stressed that  this bill                                                               
is not  meant to demean  parents and encouraged the  committee to                                                               
pass it.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEYER announced he would hold SB 8 in committee.                                                                       

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
2009 AK Youth Risk Behavior Survey.pdf SEDC 2/25/2011 8:00:00 AM
American Cancer Society.pdf SEDC 2/25/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB008-DHSS-CDPHP-2-11-11.pdf SEDC 2/25/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB 8
SB 8 Docs - Ref Links YRBS 2009.pdf SEDC 2/25/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB 8
Youth Risk Behavior 1.pdf SEDC 2/25/2011 8:00:00 AM
Youth Risk Behavior 2.pdf SEDC 2/25/2011 8:00:00 AM
Youth Risk Behavior 3.pdf SEDC 2/25/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB8-EED-TLS-2-4-11.pdf SEDC 2/25/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB 8
SB 8 27-LS0084A Sectional Summary.pdf SEDC 2/25/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB 8
SB 8 Sponsor Statement Rev 1-25-2011.pdf SEDC 2/25/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB 8